C14ru5 Thanks for the suggestions and help, the tune was played in 1994 but could have been brought out in 93 or 94 it was very similar in sound and structure to the first rebirth. I think the problem i have is that from such a long time ago and being a description of a record that my bro has described to me and not one I can recall hearing myself, this generation spawned a lot of great trancey tracks with long melodic breakdowns with pumping basslines that this post was the preverbiale needle in a haystack.

Mind you I have been given the names of some cracking tracks on here and discogs, so that also my bro hasnt found the tune he is after i am more than happy personally with these unknown gems i have been shown including innertales, and the solar quest one above